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This gun is strange! Is it a shotgun? Is it a pistol? Is it even legal? Find out all this and more about the Howdah .45/410 on this …

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  1. John Tandy Crabtree
    John Tandy Crabtree says:

    Which just goes to show how STUPID government mandated NFA language actually is. With semantics the product is legal anyway and the law itself has done NOTHING to curb ANY crime. It only INVENTED crime to employ a plethora of government agents.

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  2. Edward Mass
    Edward Mass says:

    We had a thing like that certified as a self-defence pistol in Russia – a sawn-off 12 gauge shotgun with external hammers (stupid IMO, should have had them hidden), however for "safety reasons" it got design limitations so it could fire only rubber slugs loaded in cut down casings.

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  3. 6iovanni
    6iovanni says:

    I'm not rich, so I bought the Rossi Brawler a couple weeks ago for $200. Just as much fun for a fraction of the price. And, considering the price of .410 shells, that's a no-brainer.

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  4. daniel salach
    daniel salach says:

    Back in the mid 70s dad got a old hammer O shotgun the stock was rotted so cut it down to a pistol handle then the barrel cut it down to 19 inch and it was 27 inch over all he was able to shoot clays with it and it has no sights on it I may have to take that old thing out and have some fun with it someday.

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  5. Nick Caspar
    Nick Caspar says:

    My howda is black powder in 20 gauge, around 10 inch barrel and completely legal. And once loaded has about the same performance as a center fire 20 gauge. double barrel oh it looks like they showed it at the end of the video

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  6. Jake Outdoors
    Jake Outdoors says:

    They missed so much with this firearm. It should have removeable chokes with straight rifling like Thompson Center originally used in the 45/410 Contender. It would yield far better patterns with .410 loads with the chokes. Additionally I would like it in something chambered in something with more oomph than a 45 Colt. 45-70, 444 Marlin 460S&W or 500S&W would be great.

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  7. Roger Mateer
    Roger Mateer says:

    I know a gentleman who uses a Thomson contender in . 45/.410 for a disabled sportsman pheasant shoot that is scheduled for twice a year. Not sure if it's him or the gun, but, in the last 5-6 years for sure all he has hit is the field grasses after gravity had done it job.

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  8. Bob Dixon
    Bob Dixon says:

    I have read and collected all of the works of Jim Corbett. Who killed many man-eaters on foot. I grew up reading them. Yep the maneating leopard of rudraprayag killed over 400 people in the panar valley and others. It was realized that running a "beat" for man-eaters was useless because man-eaters were unusual in behavior and more non man-eaters were killed and the actual man-eaters not killed. Then they had to fire shikars, and cancel rewards for sportsman and recruit Jim Corbett. He didn't want to be killed by a sportsman while hunting the man-eater. So they cancelled the rewards. And he did it without reward$$$

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  9. mark hunter
    mark hunter says:

    I have one of the original T/C Contenders in 45/410. I once took it to the skeet range to try it out with both 2 1/2 and 3" number 9s and I think I broke 1 out of 25. Your mileage may vary.

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  10. Johnny McCann
    Johnny McCann says:

    it's nice and could be used self-defense, survival effectively. but the price, i can but good used pump shotgun, center fire hunting rifle, 22 lr rifle..for me i would rather have 3 possibly 4 firearms for the same price. i have to go with more bang for your bucks.papa😊

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  11. viator21
    viator21 says:

    A “Rough and tumble general purpose tool” for me needs more than 2 rounds. A quality revolver requires about the same skill level but is much more effective.

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  12. Corbit Belflower
    Corbit Belflower says:

    Actually the shotshell is way overbored by the 45 caliber bore . .040 backbore is about standard for a 12 ga . And a .020 over bore size is considered backbore for a 20 ga. So in reality this would be like firing a 3 inch 410 out of a 3 inch barrel with no choke at all with the small payload in a. 410 shotshell and no choke 15 yds will be very generous even with the 3 inch shell not to even mention the more available 2 1/2 inch shell which will be even less effective.

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  13. Graham Bamford
    Graham Bamford says:

    Hay Ron, love if you did a video on Jim Corbett, stalking and shooting man eating tigers at point blank range in the jungle. He was quite some guy from what i can gather.
    I believe he used Rigby rifles.

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  14. John Bennett
    John Bennett says:

    Ron: Very interesting video. Hickok 45 has an original Howdah pistol. Here is something I have been wondering about. The tiger was and is a magnificent game animal. So, why, in the "glory days" of the British hunters, were no tigers ever imported in to some of the African countries? Do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks, John, from Ohio.

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  15. Matthew Grice
    Matthew Grice says:

    If you just wanted it for self defense, then the Taurus Judge or Smith & Wesson Governor would be better. But there is the cool factor. Then again if I had tigers in my backyard I think I would take 6 shots over 2.

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  16. merp ius
    merp ius says:

    "sawed off" shotguns are legal, with an NFA license… however you don't even need that for a shotgun-type-firearm built originally as a pistol-style form factor, as long as the overall length is at least 26 inches and it was originally built that way. That's just a "firearm."

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