The NEW ÖBB RAILJET is not actually that good…
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We're in a transition towards level boarding currently. This is an imperfect solution having so many steps internally but necessary with the Siemens design approach, retaining conventional bogies with high floor sections over them at the vehicle ends and providing a low floor 'well' section in the middle containing the external doors. By contrast, the new ICE-L design in Germany will have a fully level floor internally at the same height as German platforms (majority 760mm). The trains are from Talgo and their unique running gear design allows the intercar passageway to pass between the tops of the wheels and remain completely level throughout the length of the train. The ride quality of Talgos with fewer wheels tends to be poor relative to a traditional bogie arrangement however. While the main driver for level boarding is disabled accessibility, other operational benefits are easier, faster, more confident boarding for all and fewer minor trip and fall incidents that can cause delay.
My wife was adamant that gendered toilets are not pointless. She reports that many men have poor aim – which means that far too often she finds urine not only on the floor but splashed onto the seat, which she has to clean up before using the toilet. Hardly a pleasant experience!
Well, at least it´s now wheelchair accessible. That the ÖBB really bought in 2008 a train thats not accesible is a scandalous and sad, at least they corrcted this mistake. But it still will take years till all old trains are replaced.
I am agree wi5h you 5he buisness Glas on the x2ndxRJ Generation is a absoluty downgrade in 5he oposite of the BC of 5he 1st RJ Generation. I 5hink 5h3 best train in Europe at the Moment isthe trainitalia freccarossa Exekution clans in the freccarossa 1000 series
As a father I was so disappointed by the new railjet. Same level boarding is something I usually need only twice on a trip, but once I'm inside the train I'm very confined. Everything is so narrow and cramped, you can't even reach the tiny stroller space without some maneuvring. If it's occupied you're basically stuck in the entrance area, with all the stairs and narrow passages.
And the decision to get rid of the children's cinema was clearly made by someone without kids!
I also wouldn't call the old railjet a success, since it combines all the disadvantages of a loco pulled train with the ones of a multiple unit. It's a really bad example of design by comitee.
Should consider a Tren Maya or Trans-Isthmus Train from Mexico video in the future.
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Am I missing something? Passengers get a table if they can transfer to a seat, but they don't have a table if they remain in their wheelchair? I see only one table here.
Person who cannot do steps: "How do I get to the vending machines now?"
OBB: "Simply ask your travel companion to get something for you."
"No Wolfgang. Me being unable to do steps does not mean I travel with someone, or that I want people to do things for me."
So many problems? So do we. Love from Formosa 💚🤍.
gendered toilets seem very unfriendly to trans people too, what stupidity
Some of those new features are clearly copied from Westbahn even if in some cases (as with the gendered toilets) they shouldn't
I completely agree ! The original RailJets are wonderful, but these new sets are very poor in comparison. OBB needs to revise them very soon !
How the mighty has fallen. lol. It has nice new features but many downgrades.
1:42 Wow – butt ugly train station! Lowest bid architect?
This train is worse than its predecessor. But it is far from the downgrade that the SBB Girunos are. The old trains ICN or Astoro EMU‘s are far better compared to the Giruno. It started of with the marketing bs from Stadler that it is the first low floor high speed train in reality only two doors offer level boarding and Talgo made low floor high speed trains since the 1990‘s. The seats on the Giruno are extremely uncomfortable and the passenger information never works. The toilet situation on the Giruno is even worse than on the new railjet not only are the toilets sometimes two cars down the train but the design is one of the worst on trains I have ever seen. The toilets are gender specific and not even there are more women toilets than men. The door to the toilet only moves if you have your hand on the handle and there is a button next to the door that says door open the only thing this button does is to make a loud noise. And don’t forget most of the time half the toilets are broken.
I came to Innsbruck one day using the Nightjet service from Graz to Zürich! I arrived very early at the station and took a nap because I was in a full sitting compartment, so I hadn't slept much… I feel a bit frustrated that I couldn't see the incredible views from the train as it was still dark
Both Railjet generations can do 230 kmh
instead of glow up, this was a glow down. what a disappointment
Gendered toilets???? This is always ridiculous and even more so on a train where both are identical.
Has Innsbruck something worth visiting? Considering about visiting a country from Germany
For me, this New RJ is a kind of "failed construction"! F.e. the "dining car" is again a downgrade, and the "Business Class" is just a joke!
I think that the new Nightjet sets were the main focus of the new design
Hello Nonstop Eurotrip
You video was very good. I took the train often between Kufstein and Innsbruck and returning to Vienna.
I really like the Seats in 1st class.
In my opinion the Railjet 2 is good.
Yes of course the toilets are the same, but in Austria it is desired that there are separate toilets, the ÖBB has caught up with what other companies ( like Westbahn- Private Operator) have already introduced 5-8 years ago.
I have to say the new possibility with low floor and then the small stairs up ( you can us the help groove)
is better than 1 Meter in a door up.
You need stairs otherwise how should it work🤷🏽♂️
The low floor is now better for older people or disabled persons
The Problems I ( or should I say WE understand, too)
No Garbage box is bad
The Business Class is on the train not worth.
We as related to the ÖBB we also didn't like it.
What should I we can't change These 2 things now, but we are not alone.
Other ÖBB staff complaint, too.
I always loved travelling on the Railjet trains compared to my home in the UK,I hope they are not letting their standards drop which your video seems to show.Hope someone is listening.❤
I totally agree with your points (especially about the business class). However the comparison shouldn't be between the old and the new Railjet, but between the old EC trains and this new Railjet. After all it is replacing those trains and not the Railjets. In that case some points are still true, but the trains have Wifi now and finally some food (again) which was a big pain in the last years on the EC lines. Considering that the old 1st class only consisted of compartment coaches (however with 4 compartments of the ex businness class) it is a slight improvement that there's more choice for comfort oriented travellers. In fact the old EC trains were booked out completely in summer and I guess with the supplement for Business there will be more spontanously reserveable seats available for 1st class ticket holders.
With the Business class: I hope the same will happen as with the Business class on ÖBB-IC/EC-trains…. it died… and became a normal first class. Maybe it's their plan and they are just trying out if people are okay to pay extra to sit in a compartment.
Hey, nice video.
As for the train itself, I generally think it's great and I even find the seats very comfortable. The business class thing was clearly a misstep, there's no denying that. Fortunately, you can exchange seats, said one of the ÖBB once. Accessibility is a difficult issue, I think they should have done it like with the new Nightjets, with all cars generally having steps at the doors and one car with barrier-free doors. Personally, it doesn't bother me the way it is now, as I rarely move through the entire train. The thing about the gender-segregated toilets is pretty unnecessary, but it doesn't bother you, does it? (Of course no one on the train pays attention to it anyway xd)