The Force Awakens… 7 Years Later
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Star Wars: Episode 7: The Force Awakens is the 7th movie in the Star Wars Saga and the first Star Wars movie under the Disney …
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nah fam lost me at the rey part
I hated this poor shit show when I watched it the first time 2015 and I still think this is the first collapse of something actually beautiful
Wow it really is 7 years huh
This is stupid
I'm sorry how many years??????
43:56 Even though the front of the helmet looks more like a black and silver version of Darth Revan's… especially with the hood up.
Oh dear.
If I´m being honest, looking back at the sequels the Force Awakens was the one I most enjoy, probably not a faut of TLJs actual writing and to an extent movie proper just me still not being able to fully reconcile positive feelings on how the actual plot was handled and probably a fault of The Rise of Skywalker ,though honestly it was a pretty spectacle for all it´s flaws. I have to disagree on one arguement though , worts and all the Phantom Menace did very little to imitate the previous movies, the most I would say is that it copied the Final space battle that could be said to be Death-Star-like , the hero(I liked Lloyd but in the movie he was basically the child sidekick) from the desert planet and the mentors death with Qui-Gon. But the whole context and development of how it goes down is pretty different and the rest is like a wierd and kinda fun space planet hopping adventure to save Naboo.
TFA: Decent ideas, okay execution
LJ: Scatter-brained ideas, mediocre execution
ROS: Brain-dead ideas, Haphazard execution
Co-writer and director J.J. Abrams himself openly admitted that The Force Awakens was a rehash in 2016. Rewatch his Tribeca film festival interview by Chris Rock.
"we very consciously — and I know (The Force Awakens) is derided for this — we very consciously tried to borrow familiar beats so the rest of the movie could hang on something that we knew was 'Star Wars.'".
That ends the debate, IMHO. No point in trying to defend otherwise.
As for me, and given how expectations subverting 8 and narrative train wreck 9 turned out, I can only treat 7 as a soulless film designed by people with no idea and no plan beyond exploiting nostalgia to make a lot of money for the corpos, which worked. See also: Spider-Man No Way Home.
I find 7 simply unwatchable these days.
The more I watch this film the more I enjoy it!
TFA awoken my love for Star Wars again 🙂
Episode 7 was alright , things were looking up and then……
What's the background music track for chapter 2?
Let me fix your title "the force awakens 7 years later is still mid
TFA is a solid movie its the first movie of this series I ever saw in theatres and I love it even now TLJ is solid but has issues and TROS is decent dumb fun imo overall
See 14:09 – 14:38 for what should have been the first half of the TFA title crawl 😂
Paused a short ways in just to throw my two cents out there, but the "New Hope 2" thing struck a chord :U
For me, TFA has always been kind of the Twilight Princess (like, the Zelda game, I mean) of Star Wars. They're well-made, mechanically sound pieces of media that are fun to watch/play, but in trying to win back the goodwill of a certain audience, their more unique elements are downplayed, or overshadowed, by the similarities they share with their older, more venerated siblings. They could've been really interesting and distinctive entries in their respective franchises, but ultimately, their identities end up getting really muddled, to the point that they're sometimes described as "older thing, But Bigger" or "older thing 2".
It's something that always sticks in my mind when the topic pops up, because I can often see good ideas or good things in stuff that people otherwise bellyache about. I really like a lot of TFA's concepts, either on-paper or in the movie itself – Rey and Finn have a fun character dynamic, for instance, and the First Order being this small-but-fanatical faction (on paper) is a really interesting place to take the Empire. But those things just… never really panned out. And that kinda… really, really sucks.
I remember leaving this movie excited for the next one. After seeing the next two, this one was ruined.
Rey doesn't go on a heroes journey. Heroes journeys are about CHANGE, they are about becoming a different person. Rey arrives already perfect, she never makes mistakes or changes.
Also, you spent a LOT of time trying to claim that Rey isn't portrayed as great at flying in the movies. But Chewy literally complains that Poe's flying isn't good as Rey's. It's in the script. She is canonically the best-est ever.
As for Luke and Anakin also being Mary Sues, you said it yourself. Both Luke and Anakin get their limbs cut off and horribly lose at some important moments. Characters that do that are by definition not Mary Sues. Mary Sues always win and never experience setbacks. Characters with setbacks, however flawed, are not Mary Sues. You're reaching to defend her.
Hey I just want to say this video is very well made, and all the points are connected well. The Force Awakens is my favorite Star Wars movie and this video kind of explains it all!! 👍👍🎉🎉🎉
It’s literally a rip off of a new hope. No one can deny that. If they try then they’re just lying to themselves
2 questions. Was Starkville base a planet or a man ad base like the death star. Also what the hell happened to Darth Vader helmet in this movie
Rey the actress has her mouth open the whole time!
Dude you are high Ray is a Mary Sue….stfu clown she fixed the falcon so better than Han…she fights a trained sith with no training and beats him…she blocks that sith power…so many other things she sucks.
The main issue with the flying isn't her "skill." The issue is that it doesn't make sense that she knows HOW to fly in the first place, and the movie makes no effort to suggest she can until the moment it's needed. Luke and Anakin both had multiple moments where they establish that they know, and how.
For Luke, there were two options they were considering, buying passage or getting their own ship, Han was skeptical, but Luke insisted that he knew how to fly, then in the briefing Luke assures another pilot that the shot isn't impossible and that him and his buddies made shots like that all the time on Tatooine. That is later reinforced when another pilot makes the shot, only slightly off.
For Anakin, it's a bit unbelievable at first, but then makes sense later. When he's first talking to Padme he says he's a pilot, then later we learn that he's been podracing and is quite skilled. While you can argue that him never finishing a race suggest he's a bad pilot, I'd have to call that out as a strawman, considering he's a slave who built his pod from junk and Sebulba clearly was in the habit of preventing most if not all other racers from finishing. Later, when he's piloting the Naboo fighter, there's a good reason why he can fly it, it's a fighter, not a freighter.
Rey, on the other hand, as you mentioned, clearly wants to leave Jakku, but can't. She also has virtually nothing to her name and clearly isn't getting paid well for her work, since not only does she barely make enough to buy food, she isn't even being paid to BUY food, she's being paid FOOD. Are we supposed to believe that Plutt spent the time and energy to teach her to fly? She was left there as a kid and never left, so she clearly didn't learn elsewhere, so the best guess would be that she learned from people passing through, yet no mention is made of any such interaction, in fact we're shown the opposite, she scavenges, cleans, gets her "payment" and goes to her "home" very far away from everyone else.
So sure, Rey struggles a bit before getting a handle of the ship, but she still made quite a leap from what she was established as being able to do, bigger than Anakin's and Luke's. While their leaps are like going from experience with a dirtbike to a street motorcycle, hers is like going from a dirtbike to an airplane, just look at the control panels and everything that pilots have to do in these movies in the various ships they fly. Most starfighters have relatively simple dashboards, more akin to a car or motorcycle's controls, while ships like the Falcon have tons of guages, switches, buttons and similar things that pilots are frequently managing even during a dogfight. Does it make sense for someone who's hardly ever flown (if ever at all), much less flown that particular vehicle, to suddenly be able to manage all those different things while under the stress of getting shot at?
I love episode 7, still my favorite Star Wars movie
It hasn’t been 7 years yet
I think you're forgetting one crucial bit about Anakin. He is literally Force Jesus. He is the chosen one in being more powerful and being able to do things other foreseusers do when normally be able to do at a young age is understandable
It could of been good if a couple of things were change
You’ll actually hear people say they like this movie. My theory is that because the next two movies tarnished all of this trilogy’s potential, they also take their anger out on TFA.
As a fan of TFA myself who also fully understands it’s faults, I think this video is the best analysis/discussion of the movie that I’ve ever seen, and I’ve watched quite a lot lol
This was an incredible analysis great work! I do really enjoy the visuals of the Force Awakens lightsaber battle as well.
honestly looming at this now i dont know if i could like it or not.
i mean when i saw tfa for the first time i was indifferent about it from a legends fan standpoint then i joined the anti disney bias campaign just to fit in but after all those years of unbridled rage and looking back i feel like ive somewhat been too harsh and somewhat feel like the existence was unessesary
Outstanding video! Such an amazing, in depth look into this film. Enjoyed every minute of it!
I am so very very sorry this is a generation's introduction to Star Wars. The OT was my childhood introduction and I love the Prequels just as much as a thirty something. The ST is based on many lies and deceptions. There are numerous YouTubers who break down the terrible ST narrative and story beats and motivations. JJ is a hack of a writer when it comes to sci-fi but I do like his direction and actor picking skills. I was weary when he was announced and it turned out exactly as I expected…a mere semblance of a Star Wars story. A big budget fan film is all it is. I understand the youth factor and TFA is the best film of the trilogy so I am not trying to take away anything from anyone who loves this film. Just know there is a gigantic shift in these films from the previous and this is not grumpy old man talk as I adore some guilty pleasure films myself. I hope with age those who grow up on these will at least someday see the difference for themselves.
Yup, it still sucks imo
As someone who was never that big of a Star Wars fan and had probably only seen A New Hope like 3 times my whole life, I walked out of the theater thinking it was basically a shot-for-shot remake.
To just say well it's a hero's journey — I've watched A LOT of movies that fit that description without thinking they were all just a remake of A New Hope. Now to a more serious fan who really knows the ins-and-outs of the story I think you could make that argument, but as a casual fan who only remembers the main plot points it felt like the same movie.
Honestly the only interesting part was Finn but setting up a potentially interesting character isn't the same as telling an interesting story. (And obviously Finn's storyline went nowhere)